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28 May 2007 @ 20:29
So. I saw Pirates of the Caribbean tonight. There IS a scene after the credits, btw, but it's terrible.

The film was really strong up until that point. Great acting, Elizabeth was "allowed" to be as strong and as determind as Will, great fight scenes and Jack was Jack.

It was great RIGHT UP until the credits rolled. The very final scene is of Elizabeth presumably with her child waving off Will for another 10 years.

Without this scene: Elizabeth remains the Pirate King and a ship's captain and sets off to find a way to free Will, probably involving the Elixir of Life Jack was searching for and continuing her adventures.

With this scene: Elizabeth gives up her Pirate King title and her role as a ship captain and goes to live on an apparently deserted desert island to raise her kid alone without any support from her husband who's having a fine time on the Flying Dutchman. What a wonderful life. Um. Yeah. *slow applause* Way to ruin a fantastic film.
N: sighnokiirat on 28th May 2007 08:24 (UTC)
...I'm glad I didn't stay for the credits then. Let's blame Disney for the Disney-fied ending.
Williamgenkischuldich on 28th May 2007 08:30 (UTC)
If enough people didn't see the credits, I guess we can pretend it didn't happen, right?

But the rest of the movie isn't Disney at all... I mean, it starts with the hanging of young child!
Hal: [bleach] shunsui - no more chop chop?bleu on 28th May 2007 09:09 (UTC)
I thought Will was free of the curse afterwards? (If the Dutchman's Captain's "love" is loyal to him those whole ten years, and is there upon his return, the Captain would be free of the curse?)

But yeah, I totally agree with you otherwise. XD The little extra didn't bother me as bad as it did some others, but I liked the ending exactly as it was. Having that little tidbit at the end just sort of, somehow, like stole the thunder from Jack and his... I never did quite learn how to spell the name of that kind of boat. It just totally summed up the whole Pirates trilogy well.
Williamgenkischuldich on 29th May 2007 05:21 (UTC)
That's not the impression I got of the scene, but if that's the case, it's a LOT better than I thought (of course, she still had to raise the kid alone for the first ten years).
yojichan: pokeyojichan on 28th May 2007 09:11 (UTC)
uhm yeah..

way to go.

girl is "allowed" to kick ass.

girl gives up kick-ass title.

girl raises kid ALONE in some whatever island.


way to go.

I only liked watching POTC part 1. that's it. although I still love Johnny Depp but I really don't care much about this film.
Williamgenkischuldich on 29th May 2007 05:24 (UTC)
I liked one and three, actually. I just want to ignore the credits clip. I was amazed to see Elizabeth NEVER having to be rescued and being able to fight as well as any other crew member.

...Amd then she gives it up.
Fluffymaru: Sei_Rising Smokefluffymaru on 28th May 2007 09:14 (UTC)

She wasn't waving him off- she and the child were greeting him back for the first time in 10 years.

Williamgenkischuldich on 29th May 2007 05:24 (UTC)
Ah, yeah. It was late and I was tired. ^^
くらやみひみつ: Chompkurayamihimitsu on 28th May 2007 09:44 (UTC)
well i'll definately keep in mind not to wait for the credits to finish. ^__^ thanks for the heads up. <3 i hope to see the movie this week or weekend if i can find someone to go with @___@
Williamgenkischuldich on 29th May 2007 05:26 (UTC)
I would go and see it again, but it's SO long. I had a real headache afterwards. Didn't "feel" any of those three hours though.
zafiro_v on 28th May 2007 11:16 (UTC)
I didn't stay for that scene! What a terrible way to end it all, but it was to expect, no? He had to stay in that ship for 10 years, and he could not take her.
Williamgenkischuldich on 29th May 2007 05:29 (UTC)
Couldn't she become part of the crew? Couldn't the Pirate King go wherever the Pirate King desired? I think there were a lot of ways to fix it.
zafiro_v on 29th May 2007 10:58 (UTC)
They went to the land of the death all the time, and they went under the sea. They didn't die because they were dead already, or serving. Will's father said she could not go.
talithax: Aya/Chloe Schoolgirltalithax on 28th May 2007 19:03 (UTC)
That's exactly what I thought too...

But my mother has a different slant on it.

Will can only step foot on *land* once every ten years, so Elizabeth and offspring have returned (from their boat and their pirate's life) to the island to meet him.


It's a better way to view it if nothing else, right?
Williamgenkischuldich on 29th May 2007 05:30 (UTC)
That's a much better way, actually! Although Elizabethe lacks any of the clothing, either official or piratey, to make this plausible Works for me!